tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post5202497149619815549..comments2024-03-05T10:47:39.661-06:00Comments on Thoughts on Technology: The Best Linux Desktop Environment is...Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-79245578529148803332012-09-11T11:38:18.047-05:002012-09-11T11:38:18.047-05:00If you are a fan of kde3.x, then the trinity deskt...If you are a fan of kde3.x, then the trinity desktop is for you. For a general desktop, it can't be beat, and is the most powerful. It is good for the casual user and developer alike. Kate has no equal for hand written code development.<br /><br />Thanks All -- and give the trinity desktop a try!tech 1 Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-77556878797362369922012-07-13T12:20:51.037-05:002012-07-13T12:20:51.037-05:00I tried out linux about 10-15 years ago and wasn&#...I tried out linux about 10-15 years ago and wasn't impressed. I was running XP on my laptop which I bought right before they rolled out Vista. Since xp is no longer supported I decided it was time to check the water again in Linux. I did some research and came down to two that I wanted to check out. I am not computer savy much at all but I can wear out google to find out stuff n things. I started with Bodhi played with it for a while then loaded Ubuntu and did the same. I ended up with Bodhi, I was really disgusted with Vista as it was so bloated. Win 7 was better but still bloated with things I never use. This is the reason I chose Bodhi is I can set it up my way and it teaches this old dog how to get around on linux. I am pretty much done with MS hitting me with $100 each time they bloat it up a little different. I read a few reviews on Bodhi and they weren't positive ones. The biggest complaint that I read was it comes with nothing installed. What part of the reasoning behind this did they not understand? You can set it up the way you want it. I suppose you can use any distro and do the same by removing the bloat but this takes time also. I would rather start with a basic install and go from there. I admit I had to google a lot to find out what the apps I wanted were called so I could install them. Bodhi may not be for everyone but I like it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-32229022784335871022012-06-02T13:12:18.082-05:002012-06-02T13:12:18.082-05:00I like Tab and Extra Pane on file browser (Gnome, ...I like Tab and Extra Pane on file browser (Gnome, LXDE). Recently I discover e17 with bodhi linux. Enlightenment is really rocks. It's fast, bright, customisable and feature rich, but haven't TAB on file browser. I want TAB and Extra Pane on next version of E 17. Because I will give it to my friends who have older machine.Mayamaxhttp://netgator.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-84381869280815727232012-04-27T20:19:09.755-05:002012-04-27T20:19:09.755-05:00I tried everything, and when I got to Enlightenmen...I tried everything, and when I got to Enlightenment narrowed it down to trying every distro which featured Enlightenment!<br /><br />The only non-E environment I still use is Slax (kde)... but I am trying to convince Thomas to use E17 for Slax7.<br /><br />And a hat-tip to Jeff, the latest Bodhi works quite well.phodgesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-85874167838702106132012-04-23T20:13:40.965-05:002012-04-23T20:13:40.965-05:00Problems solved. Forums and docs probably have th...Problems solved. Forums and docs probably have the information, but getting the right keywords for a search didn't work. After a few minutes playing, the solutions became self evident. Either add a settings gadget to the desktop or the shelf, create an application, and then define that application. The coolest thing to me is that E17 seems happy to accept an executable Java JAR file as an executable, which was something that frustrated me with other DM's. E17 is truly awesome!mcinsandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04633367509127109526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-868918318747522732012-04-20T22:56:57.956-05:002012-04-20T22:56:57.956-05:00Like as in a desktop icon? If so no idea - I don&#...Like as in a desktop icon? If so no idea - I don't ever use desktop icons. Try dropping a line to the E mailing list or make a post on the Bodhi forums.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-43075808906138070342012-04-20T08:32:58.412-05:002012-04-20T08:32:58.412-05:00Sorry to maybe be a pest, but, although I am reall...Sorry to maybe be a pest, but, although I am really liking E17, one thing does frustrate me. How do you run a shell script from the Desktop. Granted, some scripts should possibly go into my startup list, but there are some scripts that I don't want to automatically run. Single- or double-clicking onto runthis.sh doesn't run anything, despite the script being marked as an executable. <br /><br />Again, I apologize for the interruption, but I haven't had any success with Google or looking through the docs.mcinsandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04633367509127109526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-19271593799829194562012-04-15T10:09:49.110-05:002012-04-15T10:09:49.110-05:00I can also testify I moved our 3 family PC's o...I can also testify I moved our 3 family PC's on Bodhi middle of last year, and had only one crash so far (running heavy video edition & out of disk space :) ).<br />It's really fast & stable ! Good job Jeff !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-60882985151372178892012-04-12T06:52:50.502-05:002012-04-12T06:52:50.502-05:00Heh!
May you both enjoy your desktops of choice! ...Heh! <br />May you both enjoy your desktops of choice! I tried hard to like KDE4, being a KDE3 user at the time, but.... Just has not clicked for me.<br />Similarly, Unity was a big disappointment, although I've given it weeks of effort over the last year or so.<br />If it were more configurable, or about one tenth the size, maybe....<br />FlymoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-30412623068519046312012-04-12T06:46:08.569-05:002012-04-12T06:46:08.569-05:00Over the years we've tried a bundle of desktop...Over the years we've tried a bundle of desktop setups, usually for weeks at a time. Some of our favourites (Fluxbox, E17) take a bit of learning, but reward that proportionately. Not sure all my friends would choose, say, Fluxbox but that's what freedom of choice is for!<br />Stability? <br />Well, on our hardware we often run Xu/Lu/Ubuntu (& others) in parallel with Bodhi for testing purposes. In that context Bodhi has demonstrated equivalent stability - essentially problem free. <br />If you count 'Unity' & Natty Narwhal as Ubuntu, Bodhi was far, far superior in stability. <br />FlymoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-23248945290111963352012-04-01T19:28:47.643-05:002012-04-01T19:28:47.643-05:00That's not even necessary, just press Win key ...That's not even necessary, just press Win key an you are done..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-23212992464736502532012-04-01T18:24:44.801-05:002012-04-01T18:24:44.801-05:00I use current opensuse with newest KDE, a perfect ...I use current opensuse with newest KDE, a perfect combination. Neverever any crashes, not any problems with codecs and firmware.<br />Bohdi is on 2nd laptop, an old IBMt23, running fast, and I like it much!<br />I still get dazzled and confused with all the options of E17 to manipulate the Desktop, and keep going on! <br /><br />MartinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-54898964965699587802012-03-30T15:52:18.700-05:002012-03-30T15:52:18.700-05:00E17 all the way for me! Since I started using Bodh...E17 all the way for me! Since I started using Bodhi on my main machine I don't feel comfortable with anything else. It's fast, lightweight, full of eyecandy and absolutely beautiful.<br /><br />Btw, good blog JeffYaseen Nooranihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16982795328802295240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-770808014393771742012-03-29T14:05:12.914-05:002012-03-29T14:05:12.914-05:00Hello, i really like Bodhi linux, because of E17.
...Hello, i really like Bodhi linux, because of E17.<br />I have tried KDE 3.5,Gnome 2,XFCE,LXDE,Openbox,KDE 4.x,Unity.... And the winner is always E17!<br />Why? because on my old laptop, i can disable all the module i want, i keep just the nm-applet, sound and battery. And so i have a performant desktop for what i want.<br />On my desktop, i can enable all the module i want and have a very pretty desktop and performant!<br />On ubuntu LTS it's a great idea. (debian why not, but ubuntu it's great too)<br />I have liked linux mint debian but i went tired with unity not enough modulable.<br />I have also try debian with E17 desktop but version is too old<br />So thank you so much Jeff !!!!!<br />(sorry for my english, i am a french fan ;)<br />CyriaqueCyriaquenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-31820346283875965472012-03-29T10:35:06.970-05:002012-03-29T10:35:06.970-05:00Thank you again for the blog post. Last night, I ...Thank you again for the blog post. Last night, I spent a couple of hours with Unity and about an hour with E17. I'm an E17 convert, although one thing that I could have used from the blog as a newbie is a link to some documentation, such as the http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/User_Guide address. <br /><br />Regards.mcinsandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04633367509127109526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-46777868247844637212012-03-28T23:51:58.580-05:002012-03-28T23:51:58.580-05:00"everytime i try another DE, it looks pretty ..."everytime i try another DE, it looks pretty complicated for the task we have to do with it."<br /><br />Fair point. If you don't want to do anything complicated, GNOME shell probably works well out of the box. I quickly got annoyed at how hard it is to have a word processor and browser window open at once (for research or reference purposes) in the default setup. To be fair, there's now a window switcher extension that you can download to alleviate that problem, but the idea of downloading something to add a basic function like that kind of annoys me.Kevin S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06076147424768269913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-11506249544590839342012-03-28T23:37:08.480-05:002012-03-28T23:37:08.480-05:00Please explain how the need to zip from one side o...Please explain how the need to zip from one side of the screen to the other "works well for mouse," especially when you have to go from the upper-left corner to the right side of the screen to open another workspace.Kevin S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06076147424768269913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-90218349299035787832012-03-28T23:31:54.492-05:002012-03-28T23:31:54.492-05:00@CFWhitman: My biggest problem is the inability to...@CFWhitman: My biggest problem is the inability to get scrolling to work consistently, especially horizontal scrolling. I tried gpointing-device-settings but couldn't get that to work consistently. About the only thing that worked was to type synclient commands to enable it in the terminal every time I started a new session. I think I may have had to do that to enable tapping a couple of times, too.Kevin S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06076147424768269913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-66999378037200007242012-03-28T23:16:18.772-05:002012-03-28T23:16:18.772-05:00Also, I'll add, I'm kinda disappointed how...Also, I'll add, I'm kinda disappointed how Compiz kinda just disappeared from the world. (I have no intention of running unity fwiw)<br /><br />I miss my wobbly windows.samshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07006417179786343133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-85580388564109760752012-03-28T23:10:42.840-05:002012-03-28T23:10:42.840-05:00I don't have a Desktop Environment.
I don'...I don't have a Desktop Environment.<br /><br />I don't like KDE for similar reasons I don't like Gnome 3. KDE has some great designers, but ultimately the programs they use crash every five minutes it seems. I don't understand the cashew thing (or even why they would put a cashew on the desktop), or widgets everywhere, or not having a desktop.....basically they tried too hard to innovate imo. So much so that things got weird and unintuitive to me. Gnome 3 and Unity are the same deal.<br /><br />As for the other DEs, I think they are all lightweight. They feel clunky to me and arn't fluid like Gnome 2 was.<br /><br />This is all a matter of personal preference though. At the moment, I don't really have a Desktop Environment of choice. My laptop is a version behind on Open Suse, cause I don't want to upgrade to Gnome Shell. My work PC has Gnome Shell, but I don't want to reinstall cause it was a pain to configure and would mean downtime. My desktop runs arch and currently has no xserver (afaik...certainly no DE).<br /><br />So I will continue my life as a vagrant until such time as something pops up that tickles my fancy. I hope that Mate will be that.<br /><br />Though admittedly, I've never tried enlightenment. I downloaded Bohdi but never burned it.samshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07006417179786343133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-88456968275344986192012-03-28T18:29:41.222-05:002012-03-28T18:29:41.222-05:00I've tried 'em all and after years of lovi...I've tried 'em all and after years of loving gnome 2, I tried KDE 4.5 (Slackware) and was an immediate convert. I don't think that one has EVER crashed on me, though it's now updated to the much leaner and still stable 4.8.1. <br /><br />The mantra on KDE continues to be "bloated and crashy", but that just reflects lack of recent experimentation with it. I'm on Gentoo right now with 4.8.1 and it has never crashed, and at idle uses less than 300k ram.<br /><br />To be honest, it's been a long time since ANY WM or DE has flat out crashed on me... only the nouveau driver has caused that, with no difference as to distro or desktop used. The more recent nouveau is, the less likely it is to crash.<br /><br />Despite the "desktop wars" in recent times, linux (or more accurately, distro quality) has improved greatly in the last few years. Fewer glaringly obvious bugs, better hardware support, and (as this topic illustrates well) more choice than ever for DE/WM.<br /><br />I was one of the first to bemoan the switch to gnome-shell/Unity, but now, after having used both for a while, I see that they have their merits. While I'm firmly in the KDE camp now, let's not forget that there was a time when fvwm and CDE knockoffs were state of the art for linux guis. Things are much much better now.<br /><br />ps - I haven't mentioned E, but I do like Bodhi a lot. Lots of bling with no crashes and very very speedy. Looking forward to the precise-based update.claudecathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01177641256284985864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-24684989780272710612012-03-28T16:04:49.057-05:002012-03-28T16:04:49.057-05:00I hated Gnome 3 until I actually dove in and used ...I hated Gnome 3 until I actually dove in and used it. Now I see just how fast and powerful it is and I love it. For all the reasons stated as failure points above by loannis... I see the same exact points as wins! The fact that I hardly ever have to take my hand off my keyboard to use a mouse is awesome for me. A mouse can be a useful tool but it can be a big hassle too. I can open my browser navigate pages and search without a mouse in G3. If I want to open another app like exaile for music while browsing... a simple tap of the "Windows Key" then type "exa -> [Enter]" (search feature in activities) then alt+tab back to my browser! I never had to take my hand away from my keyboard.<br /><br />Also, it should probably be said that I am a Linux Admin. I have lived in the command line for years because on most servers we tend to install without a GUI (Gnome/KDE/etc...) and most servers I touch are remotely accessed. So yeah, I am very comfortable with the keyboard and a mouse is distraction for me. Your average Desktop user will not adopt these work habits easily (or at all). <br /><br />As to the no min/max buttons... it is a trivial matter to alt+tab, or if you must minimize or maximize (why that's different visually or functionally than alt+tab escapes though) then use the extension to add them back to the windows. <br /><br />Why would that be a deal breaker? <br /><br />Also, since you are a mouse lover (no judgement intended) what is wrong with "right click->minimize" on the title bar of the app for that matter. That never went away either. <br /><br />I truly believe that most (not all) people that dislike G3 would like it way better if they simply "tried" to adopt the concept of using as intended. Use the keyboard shortcuts, lay off the mouse a bit, be more productive, work faster as you learn it more. You might be surprised to see that it is in fact easier and faster to move around in G3 than in your typical point/click Desktop.<br /><br />Anyway, these are just my opinions. I appreciate the article and the points of view on other Desktops like E17/Unity/KDE/etc... none of them are wrong. We all still have something Windows users don't get to enjoy. CHOICE! :-)dadreggorshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11773304039963225079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-6775593195479995462012-03-28T15:56:17.746-05:002012-03-28T15:56:17.746-05:00I use Xfce on laptops all the time. I'm not s...I use Xfce on laptops all the time. I'm not sure what you mean when you say "touchpad incompatibility."CFWhitmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01109952971346462453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-89687483065751588202012-03-28T15:36:14.456-05:002012-03-28T15:36:14.456-05:00Tried:
Gnome
Gnome 3
Blackbox
Windowmaker
Kde
Unit...Tried:<br />Gnome<br />Gnome 3<br />Blackbox<br />Windowmaker<br />Kde<br />Unity<br />Xfce<br /><br />And everytime I used any of them I always came back to EnlightenmentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-66597536717441769292012-03-28T14:23:20.989-05:002012-03-28T14:23:20.989-05:00I really like Bodhi enlightenment! The 1.4 version...I really like Bodhi enlightenment! The 1.4 version seems to be very well put together! The only problem I have is that I can't use the open gl rendering. But this may have something to do with optimus and bumblebee.Randyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00523926936800921481noreply@blogger.com