tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post7370393217917118396..comments2024-03-05T10:47:39.661-06:00Comments on Thoughts on Technology: Windows 7 vs Ubuntu 9.10 - 3D BenchmarksAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-48782378816707816512011-01-11T13:48:04.777-06:002011-01-11T13:48:04.777-06:00The use of Wine would be the largest bottleneck in...The use of Wine would be the largest bottleneck in this case. It slows everything down greatly, because it has to go through so much more code to do the same thing. Running natively, both tests should run at about the same speed.<br /><br />I can run Steam, and the games I have on it, easily on a five-year-old Pentium 4 with an NVIDIA FX 5500. Steam just barely chugged along on a new dual-core Celeron, and the games were unplayable with a newer GPU (an Intel 915, if I'm not mistaken). Wine is terribly inefficient as a wrapper, and would produce incredibly skewed results.Styxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00850824558712672465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-21800094031898884062010-09-29T07:30:18.721-05:002010-09-29T07:30:18.721-05:00The new Windows data can be found - http://jeffhoo...The new Windows data can be found - http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/09/does-windows-7-areo-slow-down-your-3d.html - just compare it to the Linux benchmarks in my other recent posts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-42230462569033457772010-09-28T20:39:36.519-05:002010-09-28T20:39:36.519-05:00Hi jeff is the new data going to be released as a ...Hi jeff is the new data going to be released as a new post?... thanks for your helpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-77085078367611779002010-09-26T12:30:04.143-05:002010-09-26T12:30:04.143-05:00Just ran the tests yesterday. Should have it forma...Just ran the tests yesterday. Should have it formatted nicely and ready to post by Tuesday. Sorry for the delay.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-31053818719290691142010-09-25T18:04:19.375-05:002010-09-25T18:04:19.375-05:00hi Jeff,
I would like to know roughly when the ne...hi Jeff,<br /><br />I would like to know roughly when the new data will be published. thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-57482446068174053562010-09-20T11:19:17.589-05:002010-09-20T11:19:17.589-05:00Thank you very much I look forward to itThank you very much I look forward to itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-86154938883263646132010-09-20T08:37:56.454-05:002010-09-20T08:37:56.454-05:00@Anonymous Sure. Will be at least a week or so tho...@Anonymous Sure. Will be at least a week or so though - the only hard drive in my laptop is currently has a GPT partitioning layout - meaning I need to do a clean install of everything to get Win 7 reinstalledAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-91677814635708523052010-09-19T20:53:55.283-05:002010-09-19T20:53:55.283-05:00Hi Jeff is it possible for you to please run the b...Hi Jeff is it possible for you to please run the benchmark again fresh with updated drivers and more recent Unigine demos and upload the result for both the OS benchmarking and the OpenGL and Direct3D benchmarking. I am currently writing a report which I'm referencing your site in, it will look bad if the conclusion for the article does not correlate with the ones in the comment... I would do this myself but I don't have the right graphics card to run the benchmarks... I'll really appreciate it if you can do this.. thanking you in anticipation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-32467287507439891582010-09-16T21:47:07.524-05:002010-09-16T21:47:07.524-05:00@Oscar did you even read my article? The tests whe...@Oscar did you even read my article? The tests where done on the exact same system (dual booted) both with the latest nVidia drivers installed.<br /><br />Anyone who tells you drivers and operating system are meaningless regarding OpenGL performance is plain wrong.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-64581014460342297982010-09-16T13:26:15.637-05:002010-09-16T13:26:15.637-05:00@Jeff: open your eyes, dude!
Ubuntu runs on INTEL-...@Jeff: open your eyes, dude!<br />Ubuntu runs on INTEL-gpu<br />The Windows on NVidia GPU<br /><br />It depicts nothing.<br />There's by NO means a FPS-loss with similar hardware running OpenGL, whatever OS you're running. Provided you've installed the correct drivers, properly. Which, on Ubuntu, might not be as monkey-proof as it is on Windows.Oscarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07851117645103672111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-71209078118188853432010-05-12T17:31:34.340-05:002010-05-12T17:31:34.340-05:00Update - Phoronix also depicts Windows beating Ubu...Update - Phoronix also depicts Windows beating Ubuntu by a sizeable degree here - http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part3&num=3Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-23057296471308532972010-05-03T17:40:24.135-05:002010-05-03T17:40:24.135-05:00Yes, and several of other posters on here showed r...Yes, and several of other posters on here showed results similar to Phoronix, however as I said my results where triple checked on my hardware - and where the same each time.<br /><br />Perhaps I will re-run these benchmarks now that Ubuntu 10.04 is out of beta and installed on my main system.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-86744289684591889712010-05-03T17:01:13.867-05:002010-05-03T17:01:13.867-05:00Phoronix shows rather different results though...
...Phoronix shows rather different results though...<br />http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_windows_part1&num=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-47479307608303415052010-03-14T15:23:29.315-05:002010-03-14T15:23:29.315-05:00Something is wrong with the combination of Ubuntu+...Something is wrong with the combination of Ubuntu+NVidia.<br />http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora12_ubuntu910&num=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-35909715034002144152010-01-19T05:26:14.828-06:002010-01-19T05:26:14.828-06:00Mariom... Not necessarily.
The Windows driver was...Mariom... Not necessarily.<br /><br />The Windows driver was a 195.xx (it is a newly set up and updated system) whereas the Linux driver was a 190.53.<br /><br />Anyway, we are talking about some minuscle differences. The overall finding is, that OpenGL on Linux is just as fast as on Windows on my machine (when using the proprietary drivers).<br /><br />GregorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-85191880195114296032010-01-11T10:44:47.872-06:002010-01-11T10:44:47.872-06:00@Mariom As of the test date those are the latest d...@Mariom As of the test date those are the latest drivers for both Windows and Linux - obviously the different operating systems have different driver version numbers...<br /><br />~JeffAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-63417725190100866992010-01-11T09:31:32.796-06:002010-01-11T09:31:32.796-06:00Lol guy… Why did you compare results on miscellean...Lol guy… Why did you compare results on miscelleaneous drivers? You shall do test on the same driver. Its normal that, the newest drivers are quiet faster than olders.mariomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08940004305371871843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-56800404102744211892010-01-05T14:05:07.363-06:002010-01-05T14:05:07.363-06:00I just repeated the procedure on Win 7.
Aero off, ...I just repeated the procedure on Win 7.<br />Aero off, OpenGL:<br />58.3FPS/2471 windowed<br />58.7FPS/2489 fullscreen<br />(BTW fullscreen turns Aero automatically off)<br />Comparing the "best cases" (fullscreen, compositing off) means that Karmic is even slightly *faster* (60,5 vs. 58.7FPS) than Win 7.<br /><br />However, DX9 in turn is about 10% faster than OpenGL.<br /><br />Have you tried other benchmarks from the Phoronix Suite? Plenty of other results to compare with:<br />http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=category&u=unigine<br /><br />GregorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-24103599644551455242010-01-05T11:13:21.048-06:002010-01-05T11:13:21.048-06:00Thats really odd, seeing as how you are the second...Thats really odd, seeing as how you are the second one to post scores that show about the same between Windows & Linux I'm slightly at a loss as to why my setup produces such skewed results.<br /><br />Also for instance when I toggled compiz on/off on my system the difference was less than 2 fps.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-70808099244779964392010-01-05T09:07:18.204-06:002010-01-05T09:07:18.204-06:00Staying within the Linux realm:
As above - window...Staying within the Linux realm:<br /><br />As above - windowed + Compiz on:<br />54.3FPS/2303<br />fullscreen + Compiz on:<br />55.9FPS/2372<br />fullscreen + Compiz off:<br />60.5FPS/2566<br /><br />Seems as if Compiz comes at a cost.<br /><br />GregorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-8153322172165357492010-01-05T04:28:00.783-06:002010-01-05T04:28:00.783-06:00I somehow had the "feeling" that Linux w...I somehow had the "feeling" that Linux was slower than Windows. I tried to confirm your observation, alas...<br /><br />Sanctuary Benchmark, 1024 x 768, Win 7 64bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64bit, proprietary driver, Compiz and Aero enabled, NVidia 9600GT, Phenom 9950 Quad @ 2.9Ghz yields<br />Win 7: 55,3FPS, score 2346<br />Karmic: 54,3FPS, score 2303<br />i.e. more or less identical figures.<br /><br />GregorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-29750916943680846892009-12-25T12:39:14.123-06:002009-12-25T12:39:14.123-06:00Yep. Everything was on full force on both operatin...Yep. Everything was on full force on both operating systems. Hopefully I'll get test results within the next week or some from another system to compare with.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-74974348176169987212009-12-25T06:07:21.158-06:002009-12-25T06:07:21.158-06:00Just i thing i've noticed Since your card is 2...Just i thing i've noticed Since your card is 260M im guessing that you are using a notebook as mine. Did you checked you power setting in windows and ubuntu??<br />In my test's they are all made in high performance settings.<br />I dont know just in case.Stt@Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-4218054232742198522009-12-24T12:23:40.341-06:002009-12-24T12:23:40.341-06:00Thanks Stt@L :)
Also I just got around to running...Thanks Stt@L :)<br /><br />Also I just got around to running the tests with the 190.53 drivers on Linux - I saw a slight increase but nothing sizable (for instance my tropics FPS went from 14.9 to 15.8). I'm curious as to why I see such a large difference between the two platforms and you do not. I'm going to see if I can get a hold of another dual booted system with a decent gfx card so I can get a third set of data to see which is the odd one out.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17954467314386661328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1402984000559601283.post-23163744576418303632009-12-24T11:35:09.567-06:002009-12-24T11:35:09.567-06:00Offtopic: Nice blog last night i've been looki...Offtopic: Nice blog last night i've been looking around and i found some realy interesting stuff in here.<br />Realy good job congrats.Stt@Lnoreply@blogger.com